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    3. Dutch university to start handing out only Fairphones to employees, instead of buying iPhones or Samsung.
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    • vosje62@mastodon.nlV vosje62@mastodon.nl

      Dutch university to start handing out only Fairphones to employees, instead of buying iPhones or Samsung.

      vosje62@mastodon.nlV vosje62@mastodon.nl

      @Fietsbel my Fairphone runs normal Android.
      But an important reason to buy is to be able to switch to e/os later.๐Ÿ˜‰
      An alternative os was on my old phone not possible.

      The apps I need seems to work on e/os. Didn't come to switching to e/os yet. ๐Ÿ˜‡

      @wsslmn @BuyFromEU

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      • fietsbel@mastodon.socialF fietsbel@mastodon.social
        fietsbel@mastodon.socialF fietsbel@mastodon.social

        @vosje62 @wsslmn @BuyFromEU But Android belongs to Google. I donโ€™t want to leave Apple to switch to Google, definitely not. And honestly, I expect to have to solve a lot of unpleasant technical issues, before Iโ€™ll be able to migrate, but I hope I can solve them.

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        • wsslmn@mastodon.nlW wsslmn@mastodon.nl
          wsslmn@mastodon.nlW wsslmn@mastodon.nl

          @Fietsbel @vosje62 @BuyFromEU e/OS doesn't and also works fine.

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          • wsslmn@mastodon.nlW wsslmn@mastodon.nl
            wsslmn@mastodon.nlW wsslmn@mastodon.nl

            @Fietsbel @vosje62 @BuyFromEU I have just accepted that certain apps are not there anymore, and to me that is fine for now.

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            • dacvm@mathstodon.xyzD dacvm@mathstodon.xyz
              dacvm@mathstodon.xyzD dacvm@mathstodon.xyz

              @BuyFromEU proud Fairphone owner here.

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              • alloalli@mastodon.nlA alloalli@mastodon.nl
                alloalli@mastodon.nlA alloalli@mastodon.nl

                @Fietsbel @vosje62 @wsslmn @BuyFromEU The Android Open Source Project doesn't belong to Google

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                • vosje62@mastodon.nlV vosje62@mastodon.nl
                  vosje62@mastodon.nlV vosje62@mastodon.nl

                  @wsslmn @Fietsbel @BuyFromEU
                  Some apps (like smart home applications) drive on data scraping and won't work on an other os by choice.

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                  • wsslmn@mastodon.nlW wsslmn@mastodon.nl
                    wsslmn@mastodon.nlW wsslmn@mastodon.nl

                    @vosje62 @Fietsbel @BuyFromEU I don't miss those. All I have for that is Home Assistant to collect data in one spot, and that seems to work fine.

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                    • ste33ppm@troet.cafeS ste33ppm@troet.cafe
                      ste33ppm@troet.cafeS ste33ppm@troet.cafe

                      @BuyFromEU
                      Nice!

                      ...sent from my fairphone!

                      Btw: there are some other options beside fairphone. With less american big tech than apple

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                      • vosje62@mastodon.nlV vosje62@mastodon.nl
                        vosje62@mastodon.nlV vosje62@mastodon.nl

                        @wsslmn @Fietsbel @BuyFromEU
                        Home assistant proves that it is not necessary (and not even wanted*) to have the data stored online.

                        * you want it all to work if the internet is offline... ๐Ÿฅด๐Ÿ˜‡

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                        • wsslmn@mastodon.nlW wsslmn@mastodon.nl
                          wsslmn@mastodon.nlW wsslmn@mastodon.nl

                          @vosje62 @Fietsbel @BuyFromEU indeed, but it also means that you have to do some maintenance yourself, which has been fun so far.

                          I do have a wish for some more free time to tinker with it, and add some dashboards to track stuff.

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                          • vosje62@mastodon.nlV vosje62@mastodon.nl
                            vosje62@mastodon.nlV vosje62@mastodon.nl

                            @wsslmn when i switched from cable to 4-5G i had to rearrange my router, so I switched it all off 'for the moment'. (No home assistant here)
                            Now .... Many years later they are still offline.. ๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜… and the house is running like clockwork!

                            @Fietsbel @BuyFromEU

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                            • mfr@mastodon.coffeeM mfr@mastodon.coffee
                              mfr@mastodon.coffeeM mfr@mastodon.coffee

                              @TrVr @BuyFromEU @murena tap to pay won't work with e/OS. Biggest dealbreaker for me to be honest.
                              Is @murena working with EU to make #wero wallet the default maybe?

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                              • trvr@mastodon.greenT trvr@mastodon.green
                                trvr@mastodon.greenT trvr@mastodon.green

                                @mfr @BuyFromEU @murena Marco maybe this has to do with the advanced Privacy settings. I need to put it off for the banking apps to work. The great thing about e/OS is you can set this on an app base. So yes the bank will know your IP location and maybe their trackers as well. But other apps get nothing.

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                                • iveyline@mastodon.nzI iveyline@mastodon.nz
                                  iveyline@mastodon.nzI iveyline@mastodon.nz

                                  @BuyFromEU Good move.

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                                  • danielezomg@mastodon.socialD danielezomg@mastodon.social
                                    danielezomg@mastodon.socialD danielezomg@mastodon.social

                                    @mfr @TrVr @BuyFromEU @murena that looks a very, very minor inconvenience. Yes tap to pay doesn't work unless you use Curve, which is owned by a zionist. I just bring the credit card with me ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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                                    • mfr@mastodon.coffeeM mfr@mastodon.coffee
                                      mfr@mastodon.coffeeM mfr@mastodon.coffee

                                      @danielezomg @TrVr @BuyFromEU @murena for privacy tap to pay is better (yes w/big tech at the moment, but itโ€™s still better than paying with card for that, wero would be ideal eventually). Regardless I wonโ€™t switch until my current phone dies, but fairphone is high on my list. I really like that companies (well at least one, more might follow) are having sustainable company phones on their agenda. Otoh the EU is pushing regulation that also forces the big brands to move in the right direction.

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                                      • wsslmn@mastodon.nlW wsslmn@mastodon.nl
                                        wsslmn@mastodon.nlW wsslmn@mastodon.nl

                                        @vosje62 it just works. That's why I'm not a fan of elaborate automations involving stuff that could be controlled with a classic light switch. It is fun to do, but that is about it for me.

                                        @Fietsbel @BuyFromEU

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                                        • fietsbel@mastodon.socialF fietsbel@mastodon.social
                                          fietsbel@mastodon.socialF fietsbel@mastodon.social

                                          @wsslmn @vosje62 @BuyFromEU Thatโ€˜s nice, and under better circumstances, it would work also for me. But currently, we donโ€™t know anymore where to stay for our pension age, and we travel between two countries, with an accomodation in each of them, also for family reasons. So we need a certain level of remote control also.

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                                          • fietsbel@mastodon.socialF fietsbel@mastodon.social
                                            fietsbel@mastodon.socialF fietsbel@mastodon.social

                                            @wsslmn @vosje62 @BuyFromEU My idea would be to develop all necessary apps also for EU-made phones with EU-made OS.

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